— In GroundUpLibs@yahoogroups.com, “davidt”
Paulie Cannoli writes:
He asks it of everyone who visits his website.
Wrong! He also sent a post to Ca-Liberty list announcing his poll.
I only visited his website for the purpose
of voting against Barr.
Otherwise, I wouldn’t visit Cohen’s website if my life depended on
Paul) What was wrong? Does him sending a message to the California
list mean it’s not an open question on his website? Is there some kind
of contradiction there? Or do you just get a kick out of saying
“Wrong!” like you’re correcting someone, even if you’re not?
Someone else: “There’s a post at
entitled “What fools these mortals be”
That post is *also* at
It’s one of those self-selection polls. You can go to a computer
lab at a college and vote from every terminal.
I wouldn’t know about that; but you seem to be an expert on the
Paul) It’s pretty easy, and does not require much in the way of
“Statistical literacy is a term used to describe an individual’s
ability to understand statistics. Statistical literacy is considered
by many to be necessary for citizens to understand material presented
in publications such as newspapers, television and the internet.
Numeracy is a prerequiste to being statistically literate……..
Results of opinion polling are often cited by news organizations, but
the quality of such polls varies considerably. Some understanding of
the statistical technique of sampling is necessary in order to be able
to correctly interpret polling results. Sample sizes may be too small
to draw meaningful conclusions, and samples may be biased.”
“A biased sample is one that is falsely taken to be typical of a
population from which it is drawn. Someone saying “Everyone liked that
movie!” might not mention that the “everyone” was them and three of
their friends, or a group of the star’s fans.
Online and call-in polls are particularly at risk of this error,
because the respondents are self-selected. At best, this means the
people who care most about an issue will answer; at worst, people
listening to a particular radio host, or on a political mailing list,
flood the poll.”
Congratulations, you are now a certified expert!
Also, a lot of libertarians are sitting in front of computers
all the time anyway, and voting in internet polls does not require them
to get out of their chair, and it feels like they’ve done something, even
though it isn’t actually true.
L.O.L. That’s a hell of a statement coming from someone named
after a fried pasta filled with sugar, cream and soft cheese.
Paul) Do you actually have a quibble with the accuracy of my statement
above? What it be more or less true if someone else said it?
If the statement above is not accurate, in what way is it wrong?
As for Barr, I think we should give him a chance to prove
I’m all for that, but he ain’t the bosses son. He should start at
ground level and work his way up, like everyone else,
except the boot lickers at the LNC.
Paul) I guess they thought that past experience in a high level
management position would be valuable on the board. Of course, you can
say it was a history of mismanagement, but then that should be
excellent training for the LNC.
He says he is a libertarian now. Let’s see if he means it. Maybe
he’s had a sincere change of heart, maybe it’s still a work in progress?
If we want him to keep moving in the right direction, taking a
strident tone may not be the way to go.
MAYBE, you should wake up and smell the coffee, or whatever it is
that I smell.
Paul) I am fully awake. If you smell something, you might need a
change of diaper.
Barr is already on the LNC. Voting in an internet poll will not
Don’t be so sure, Benito.
Paul) I’m sorry, who’s Benito? Are you hearing voices in your head?
It won’t be any more meaningless than voting in a General Election.
The anti- Barr vote is only 20% [so-far], but thats a lot more than
most Libertarian candidates have received. It would, at minimum, let
the “royal pretenders” know that the masses are not deaf, blind or
stupid, as some of their defenders are.
Paul) OK, I guess your logic is overwhelming. Receiving 20% in a
self-selecting sample poll on Bruce Cohen’s website is certainly an
issue worth talking about. Let’s issue a press release.
By the way, have you been able to find Alabama and Mississippi on
the map, yet?
Paul) Don’t need to. I’m already in Alabama, and Mississippi is an
Now that we have that covered, do you have any other fascinating
internet polls we can vote in?
I’m sure if we all vote in 50 internet polls a day and ask everyone we
know to vote in them too we can achieve liberty in our lifetime.
Maybe we can have an internet poll about which internet polls are the