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Staff reports done. Missed liveblogging staff report from Wes.
Now discussing timing of executive session
Pat Dixon suggests there is nothing except counsels report to discuss in exec session.
Stewart Flood wants to discuss a contract issue in exec session.
Campus report….
Jim Lark thanks Joel Cox for help with campus organizing
Lee Wrights commends Jim Lark
Reports that there is a strong tendency towards libertarian thought among college students.
Says SIL is doing a very good job and has good relationship with LP.
Region reports
Vermont in progress of being reorganized. Connecticut, Rhode Island and Maine “in need of serious help” esp. Maine.
Sink-Burris…had regional conference initiated by state chairs, urges other regions to do same.
Hinkle urges regions to update campus contact list.
Jack Dean – pensiontsunami.com ?
Keeps track of cities and counties going bankrupt due to pensions
Richard Rider – list that focuses on corporate welfare e.g. stadia
Flood – NC has new (political?) director
Spending time working with chairs, staff from other regions
Tony Ryan – missed it – refer to tape
Jim Lark – something about IL … talks some more about pensiontsunami, suggests press release, confirms on NC political director
Wes needs press releases and articles that are ready to go, more so than ideas
KY report will be in exec session
Colley – conventions 2010, 2012
Goes to corp HQ of hotel chains and gets deals that way..
head counts issue w/ hotels
Packages…wants to keep gold under 300
Silver – skips lunches
basic – how many people we commit to
Wants to stay on top of cheap room/food options that Knapp is tracking, so that the party does not overcommit to hotel by promising more people staying and eating there than actually will…encourages ppl to stay and eat at convention hotel so party does not lose money to hotel
Going over menus or something. I am suddenly feeling the need for a 12-ounce cup full of espresso shots.
“Starbucks, blah blah blah” – - exact quote.
Target Jan 15 to have packages ready to sell
Lark: will we lose money?
Colley: no
Colley looking for volunteers to help with convention planning
Skipping desert after lunch to save money
Thanks Sullentrup
Speakers: Boortz, Barr, Gary Nolan, David Nolan, Jeff Davis. Sullentrup will give welcome to StL speech.
Lark has suggestions for free speakers.
No breakout rooms to streamline costs.
Redpath, Dixon favor weekly conference call to keep on target for convention
Hinkle points out that many people will not show up for meals they bought
2012: Suggestions Nashville, Charlotte, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, DC
Charlotte is unlikely due to high cost
Problems w/ remodeling at Pittsburgh hotel
No big enough hotel in Manchester NH
Louisville KY wanted to split it up between 3 hotels w/ shuttle bus, rejected for that reason
Lark: are we trying to decide on 2012 convention this term?
Colley wants contract for 2012 done before 2010 convention
Calls setup in Nashville “confusing”
Good meeting room but meal rooms are not as good. Other aspects of Nashville hotel are good.
Nashville has best price
1/2 price on rooms as DC and parking here is much cheaper. Staff has been very cooperative.
box lunch as alternative?
Dixon: tradeoff in losing speakers
Nashville is currently 1st choice
DC is 2nd
Counsels report – exec session?
not yet
Mass. litigation may be planned
Moving to proactive stance in litigations such as DC write-in vote counts, Mass. regulations on internal governance of alt parties etc
Hinkle suggests joining RNC suit against FEC
Considering moving discussion of legal strategy in Illinois gun rights case in exec session
Bob Barr may assist w/ that case
Hawkridge: deadline for amicus brief passed
You forgot to mention my response, which is:
ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
paulie at some point, not today, we need to get more information as to what Wes means when you wrote; “Wes needs press releases and articles that are ready to go, more so than ideas”.
I’m sure there are some of us who can help.
Thanks
Where on earth is this Massachusetts litigation stuff coming from? Not Massachusetts.
Colley: there will be a convention fee around $30 for those who do not buy rooms and meals
Michael, I think it is more or less self explanatory. If you have something that is ready to go, rather than just an idea for what Wes needs to put together, shoot it to him and he may be able to put it to use.
Hawkridge: The 30 is supposed to be for materials – not seating and voting. [/hawk]
Some disagreement over whether charging delegates to vote is against the bylaws.
Discussion for goals –
15k members by May(?) 2010
All states to have affiliates by 2010
Profit or loss of no more than 10k on convention
One more I missed
Ruwart point of info, will compensation for staff be threatened if goals are not met.
Reply – forgot from whom – No.
unanimous roll call vote yes on goals
Ballot access report – 27 states at present
To do: Alabama extremely difficult, more like ind. pres.
Arkansas – 10k statewide, 1k ind more likely
CT, DC waits til 12
IL – 25k 2012, 2010 ea
…going too fast to take notes…
NM asap
WV – substitution issue
4151 valid NM, Apr 1 2010 deadline, good for both 2010 and 2012. NM state money tied up in a lawsuit.
About 15k needed for about 7700 sig nm. Redpath wants it considered in budget. Wants to help IL in 10. May want to start Nebraska.
Winger is paying Kohlhaas in some state. Missed the state.
Redpath – 15k NM
IL – 80k NM, IL might do 5-10k
NE – 15k
100k total
Needs to verify w/ Winger that includes 2012 Nebraska
Dixon – don’t want to go negative on budget
5% retention in Nebraska – Winger says that they have always met the 5% test before
Starr – how much more expensive would it be to do it in 2012?
5% NE above refers to any statewide office
Believes Fox has good chance at 5% for IL comptroller, would save from having to do 2012
Starr: chance to fail in 2010, better to just go for 2012
Redpath: Chance to run 2010 candidates
..some more I forgot, then exec session…now back from break
Thanks I should have been clear. We need to know what he is looking for when he says articles. Does he want them for the news letter or something else, op-eds?
I’ll contact him and ask.
Thank again for the work.
MW
Waiting for Sullentrup
Flood’s b-day. He says he would rather not hear happy birthday song being sung.
It is apparently illegal to sing badly in Nashville
MW – anything and everything.
Moving to budget discussion
Starr – increase ED/chair solicitations budget to fund ballot access proposals; they would be conditional on money being raised.
Dixon – no need to further complicate budget (as best I understood what he said)
Starr – this would make it clear that if money is raised for ballot access it should be spent for ballot access)
Redpath – likes Starr’s plan but would like immediate authorization for 15k for NM
Jingozian – two budgets: minimum budget and performance-based budget
Hinkle motion – ballot access line item be raised from 0 to 15k, surplus reduced by 15k
Hinkle speaking to motion – need to fill in some zeros on budget so we send message to membership that all these other categories are important (EG see Phillies article at IPR:
http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/12/lnc-meeting-thread/
2nded by Wrights – passes without objection
Lark – expenditures on campus organizing?
Points out he is spending large amounts himself.
Discussion of convention. Lark says Colley “guaranteed” it will not lose money, Colley says he can’t control how many people buy which packages
Lark says there is 5k for ballot access which he contributed several years ago which he has just not submitted reimbursements.
Starr – reason for zero line items is to keep them in mind as ideas of what the party will hopefully fund in the future
Ruwart questioning number projections
Starr – precedent for better than numbers than we had in 2009, eg 2007, 2008
Starr – most cost effective method of fundraising is in person – holds down costs as opposed to other methods (direct mail, phone, etc)
The reference to violating local anti-bad-singing ordinances came from another board member.
My father always sang happy birthday to me, up to and including my 38th birthday when he called me as usual to sing. He passed away unexpectedly three weeks later on the day after Christmas in 1995 at the age of 83. I have elected since then to request that happy birthday not be sung to me. I am quite confident that the LNC chorus would have been able to sing happy birthday in a manner that would comply with local laws.
Aside from Mark Hinkle throwing a spit ball past me this morning that was clearly aimed at the Treasurer, we are having a very productive and cooperative meeting which has been a very good birthday present.
Ruwart – based on 4 year cycle 2010 will not be as good as 2007, 8. Has optimism in process as explained in ED report by Wes and in Wes personally, but still cautious as to the projections.
Stewart – yes, this does seem more friendly than last couple I was at. And happy birthday.
Ruwart, Lark motion – raising fundraising cost projection by 20k at cost to bottom line. This was suggested by Starr in discussion leading to motion based on objections/questions raised by Ruwart.
Dixon in opposition
Dixon – “we don’t have to allocate everything we can anticipate” – numbers can be adjusted in a few months if we are doing well.
Just remembered before break, motion to iextend time to discuss ballot access did not get 2/3…Porter, Sullentrup, Dixon were against extending time.
Hinkle, Starr speaking in favor of Ruwart motion
Jingozian in favor
Flood – appears to be making points both for and against – I missed conclusion
Moved to a vote – majority vote
Passes with I think 2 nays
Colley – what happened to reserve
Starr – now called surplus
Question (Karlan?) as to whether Lark spending is in-kind contribution. Lark says no. Starr says questions like this should be in executive session.
Dixon wants more spending to be flexible rather than specifically allocated
Starr says that if we go to 6 issues LP News there should be more budgeted for it.
Hinkle wants to allocate 5k more to litigation.
Dixon – we can’t allocate money we don’t have yet – that revenue is just projected, not actual
Ruwart – doing things like ballot access and litigation help raise money because they give donors projects they want to fund
Starr – allow for specific authorizations as year progresses, or base on revenues raised by personal solicitation
15k was authorized for ballot access, not authorized to NM
Lark – call all pending questions
Dixon – objection
My conclusion was that I supported Dr. Ruwart’s motion (which I’ve already voted for at time of this posting) but that I agreed with Mr Dixon that we can very easily modify the budget later if things change.
This is just a budget. Ink on paper. We haven’t raised one single dime for 2010 (other than the estate disbursement) so we have no idea how things will turn out.
Lark – special point of privelege – why oppose
Dixon – wants to address question on budget after amendment addressed
Lark – withdraws motion
Sullentrup (?) – objects to withdrawal
Motion to call all pending questions
nays hawkridge, porter, hinkle, ruwart, one more I missed – Wrights?
fails 2/3
Proceed to Hinkle motion
passes on voice majority vote
Proceeding to vote on budget as amended
Nays – Porter
Wrights
Hawkridge
Redpath abstains
And the budget passes 13-3.
There is $15K for ballot access. That does not mean we won’t end up spending more than that in 2010. The budget may change later in the year.
Stewart – thanks for clarification – hard to follow what ppl are saying sometimes esp, when I am liveblogging @ same time
Wrights, (Ruwart?)
Motion for EC encumbrance for ballot access
Wrights says ballot access is most important thing we do, without it we are nothing
Passes without objection
Karlan
5 policy (manual?) changes that are separate agenda items
1st one – issue regarding compensation
Starr points out that Colley is already doing what is being proposed here.
Dixon – ED should not be micromanaged by LNC
Wes is asked if he is for it
Says no but it will not be a disaster if it passes
Points out that the hiring/firing he has done has been with Redpath’s approval as stated in policy manual and that it is possible that the same changes would have taken place had the proposed changes been in place
Points out that employment manual has been worked on for years, still not ready
Ruwart – difficult to fire people under this system and it wastes time – if the system we have is not broke don’t fix it
Colley – “I’ve never told the ED to do anything”
Colley – this is to help, not to micromanage
Sink-Burris – comments in favor
Alabama 26 FL 13. Starr asked this be included.
Time extension voted down. Passes with two abstentions on close vote.
Apparently there was one other no on budget, not sure I got who it was – Ruwart?
Next agenda item, policy on merit based relationships
Redpath point of info – why? Specific incident spurring this?
Karlan – dunno
Starr (coauthor) – No. This is standard procedure in corporate world. Why is this controversial?
Wrights motion to divide question
Hawkridge 2nd
Lark — point of clarification/personal privilege – what does this mean?
Starr explained but I missed it
Question is divided. I think unanimously. I don’t have it in front of me so I’m fairly lost.
Something else happened while Andy was texting me to make sure I am not a total moron.
Lark – something like this should pass but current language is too restrictive – inclined to vote no as written
Wrights – far too restrictive – too many people are friends, associates, etc of each other
Jingozian – question about contracting with companies owned, co-owned etc by LNC members
Starr – it would have to be cleared by EPCC, not just ED
Wes – if this passes it should also apply to LNC members engaged in selecting contractors; Starr – Wes and Redpath are the only ones who can ink deals
More argument I missed
Time extension voted down
Can’t keep up but looks like it will be voted down
4 yes, 4 abstain, 8 no
Correction 9 no
Question of how much more to do today
Redpath: To hear from Sinawski on new info on RNC lawsuit against BCRA
Would like to end for day other than that but it is up to the board.
7 pm reservation
Lark – one other item
Starr? – 6:30
Sullentrup, – tired, had heart attack a month ago
Redpath – OK, Sinawski (counsel) only
Currently at federal district court level
Motion to close til 8 am
Adjourned. Alabama 32 FL 13
Is there some reason why IPR is down so frequently?
I hope all you Libertarian folks are having fun. Because, I think you are draining all the energy out of the political universe…
I think that when a national, party convention goes on, there is so much energy needed and attention given, I swear the rest of the political world takes a breather.
For whatever reason, seems to me like all the regular political blogs, and even our local political news, has been excessively quiet for over 24 hours.
(Really, have fun. Get stuff done. Nice that someone is hard at work.)
Peace,
Kimberly Wilder
Long Island, NY
P.S. Looking forward to more reports
P.S.S. Hi, Paulie!
I’m sure there is, but I don’t know what it is, nor any server access.
Hi Kimberly.
We are back on.
Affiliated services committee passed without objection.
Now on to Karlan, policy on hiring and termination.
Hawkridge in opposition – violation of contract?
Starr responds – this does not change existing contract, just sets policies for future contracts.
Wes – what if someone worked for companies that went out of business?
Lark — various points of clarification
Dixon – Does not say we can’t hire someone with [?problem] gives Kubby and Paul Jacob as exampes, just give notice
Sinawski – it just says employees have to notify EPCC (on?) not chair, ED etc
Var. amendments to include chair and ED
Starr – Wes would be required to inform anyone he hires. Could hire someone who has whatever
problem it is
Wes points out that it will cause job candidates to go elsewhere.
Amendment passes w/o objection.
Main motion debated now.
Mattson — crimes against property or person — I thought this was what was removed from agenda? I guess not.
Colley – possible problem with confidentiality. EPCC is just acting as a consulting service here.
Motion to divide
Passes with little objection – Sullentrup was only one I heard object, maybe one other.
Part passed w/o objection.
Main part – nays Wrights, Hawkridge, Ryan, Ruwart, Hinkle, Dixon, Redpath abstains
[missed some...something about a survey]
Policy on convention speakers – Karlan
No speaker will speak unless they sign that they will not run for an office being contested giving them unfair advantage in race or appearance thereof.
Colley question – Sullentrup giving welcome to St L speech, would this preclude him speaking if he runs in contested race
Answer (who?) – no, he is speaking in his official capacity
Lark – good idea in general but sounds like it goes too far
Ruwart – unintended consequence – what about people who don’t know if they will run – some people may want to run for LNC after giving a speech
Karlan – it is not a prohibition, only a peice of evidence that delegates can use or choose to ignore.
Nays – Sullentrup, Lark, Ryan, Ruwart, Hinkle, Hawkridge, Dixon
Wrights absent
Sink-Burris abstain
Redpath abstains
failed 7-7
LNC budget review strategy – Mary Ruwart presentation – budget as strategy – looking for advice on possible future proposal
Need for budget analysis that tells us where to put more in future years e.g. how to increase warm prospects
Strategy in last budget was direct mail of cold prospects which was not successful, no strategy beyond directing ED to figure out something
Need to figure out strategy for growth – - have budget out a month early
Dixon – budget is just broad spending categories – more granularity not needed, ED should be free to make decisions
Starr – budget is just a model and can be wrong
It’s a battle plan and has to be adjusted as the situation on the ground is faced
Starr – our drop in revenues is not near as bad as many other companies, organizations right now
Lark – goal/strategic planning discussion is being ignored
Hawkridge – failure to capitalize on Campaign for Liberty, 9/12, 10th amendment project etc. Budget review could have caused us to capitalize better
Wes – Ruwart’s data helpful in helping him focus on renewals rather than cold prospecting
Karlan – presenting too much data to committee will cause endless deliberation, better to present it to ED
Sullentrup – would it be too hard to have rolling 12-month forecast quarterly
Starr – will need to consider this – would need to work closer with ED
objection to extend time
extend time fails
Porter – brochures have not been updated in years
Discussion of whether LPstuff brochures are print qulity
Kraus – No, it would cost more in ink than to order
Flood – this is being worked on
Lark – need for new literature
Wes – we can create new materials and encouraging people all over the country to help with writing and design
Karlan – no new materials since Bill Winter left
Winter is still available and had help with Cato Institute people who are still around
Comment from me: Wes, you should put out a call for materials to be sent to you on the website blog and email blast – if you don’t have time to do it, waiting for people to come to you will not yield much. We may have people who can and would help IF ASKED.
Lark – LNC needs to consider what issues we need to address that are upcoming
Next item – policy update on APRC
Dixon – proposal too on the fly
Karlan – motion to divide
Motion to divide passes
Starr – call question to divide
Hawkridge – objection
Passes 2/3
Part 1 – Hawkridge nay, Dixon nay, Redpath abstains – all others yes
Part 2
Dixon – this introduces changes we do not have time to consider right now
Hawkridge – how does this impact things that are time sensitive and have already gone out
Flood – if it’s out, it’s out; review on non-time sensitive stuff, all that changes is chair would be required to notify if ignoring the recommendation of APRC
Karlan – too many changes to consider right now
Starr – would it be in order to defer to mail order
A: It could be voted down then introduced as mail order, withdrawn and introduced as mail order
Flood withdraws motion with that
…understanding
[Missed point of clarification from Wrights]
Break time 13 min
Steve Gordon and Shana Kluck – mobile texting platform presentation
Text messaging is becoming much more popular and esp. in younger demographics and time for LP to catch up
Obama, Republicans both using it successfully
Much higher open rate than email – also read more timely
Advantage over twitter is that most people do not read all the twits that come to them – this comes to the phone and most people read it
Dixon – Benedict is the one who needs to be sold on this rather than LNC
Next item
Hinkle – Process for informing donors of progress? I think
Database? Stakeholders access to data? Sorry, not enough caffeine to follow. Sullentrup playing cards on laptop from time to time….
Ruwart objects that this table does not address concerns that this committee was formed to address which was confidential info leaking out, but instead expands access to data
Lark – questions on legal matters
Starr – LNCC has data sharing requirements with LNC under FEC laws
Dixon – asks Wes if he was consulted
Wes – no
Sullentrup – this board has become policy manual crazy. It is too complicated…next EC will have to figure this out. We need to do something useful to move the country to liberty and we are not doing anything useful here. Enough is enough, voting no.
Starr – we are jut the messengers – we were asked to have this report for this meeting
Hawkridge – privacy concerns
Ryan suggests division
Redpath: already separated
Mattson: we already share this data, the original motion would create a lot of problems. Moves to amend to allow state affiliates to also have access to data.
Donation history etc
2nded….Flood?
Lark: concerns with national vs. state issues,
Hinkle: Rachel’s criticism is of the current situaton not of the change
Hawkridge: Does LNCC have access currently
Answer: yes
Flood: massive impact on staff to share info w/ states
Karlan: eyes glazed over, was unable to digest – move to postpone chart to next meeting
Passes without objection
Next issue, Flood – non disclosure is not mandatory but if they do sign we use a standardized form. Sullentrup is back to cards.
Ruwart – reservation that this is for outside vendors, but supports if it is voluntary for LNC as Flood said.
Out of time, proceed to vote
Hawkridge – objection
Nays Wrights, Hawkridge,
Abstain – Redpath
Ryan – No or obstain?
Passes
Next item, Karlan on policy for publicizing libertarians in the media
Starr – get info on what we are doing to get media
Disclaimer that ppl are not necessarily speaking for the party
Chair can remove items but must inform LNC if doing so
Wrights – speaking against
The disclaimer makes it look like we are not backing our candidates
Dixon – shares Sullentrup’s earlier concerns over putting too much in policy manual….Policy manual should be concise, unnecessary micromanagement, not enforceable, let Wes do his job
Lark – some objection I think, missed it
Ruwart – this makes our nomination for sale, candidates just need to hire a publicist…discriminates against those who are mostly on net, don’t have money, etc
Colley – ED is the right guy to make these judgment calls
Hinkle – body needs to take a position because it gives equal treatment for candidates and takes decision onus off ED
Mattson – agrees with Hinkle and does not believe blogs should be counted as being the same as mass media
Ryan – agrees with Dixon, Colley et al
Jingozian – unintended consequences – non-libertarians may run just to get extra publicity
Hawkridge – I believe concurred
Wrights – blogs are putting newspapers out of business and calls question
Nos: Jingo, Dixon, Ruwart, Lark, Ryan, Hawkridge, Wrights, Porter, Colley,
Abstain: Karlan, Flood, Sink-Burris
Fails
Starr and Karlan
how to give notice – for agenda items?
Lark, clarifications…
14 days more reasonable than 21
There may be situations where things need to be snail mailed
This may be on timing of meetings, Starr is talking about timing of travel plans?
People are confused including Redpath. Mattson is asked to comment as a professional parliamentarian.
Defer to tape – hope it uploads – I do not want to follow this discussion right now
Sullentrup is back on cards. I don’t think it would be physically possible for me to drink enough espresso to follow this.
Passes without objection. After the fact Wrights says he did not realize that had been asked. Moving on….
Something else that sounds related. I need drugs. Someone poke me in the ribs if I begin snoring….
Most of the gallery and some of the committee is out in the shall
Jingo: Is this really the business of the committee
Starr: yes
Passed without objection I think. Mind drifting.
Now on to discussing some type of performance metrics.
Wes was apparently not consulted
Lark – not enough time to consider this
Wrights – gives too many extra responsibilities to staff they do not have time for
Dixon – opposition, let Wes do his job, stop micromanaging
Jingo – also against it for these reasons, but would like some simpler metrics (in a future proposal?)
Hawkridge – good intent but many items too difficult to track because state and county chairs will not report and inpossible to know without them
Hinkle – if we don’t things how do we know what succeeds, what fails
Ryan – we should postpone this, ED does not have staff or tools for it tho it is a good idea in general
Call question – unanimous
Yes – Flood, Hinkle, Starr
Sinks-Burris, Matson – abstain
fails 10-3 ….other abstentions I missed
9 min recess
back on
Issue of membership drift from people renewing early and having their expiration date pushed earlier due to language of bylaws
NOTE: I am not able to follow many of the things going on, and there will be other people’s impressions and corrections once they have time to comment …. Also, hopefully, we will be able to upload the tape.
Missed most of discussion
Nays – Hawkridge; Ryan?
Comments – Gordon
Flood
Lark …thanks to var. ppl including me
Dimmit – asks ppl to be added to credential committee
Motion?
I am confused, how are we having a motion during public comments?
Is there agenda item after public comments? I did not hear them close or ask if anyone else had comments?
Sullentrup taking off, Carling will now take minutes
Inquiries as to voting methods, mail ballots etc
Punted to mail ballot
I’m currently on my 9th cup of tea this morning. Starting to feel like Frye in that Futurama episode where he drank 100 cups of coffee. Everything is slowing down…
Missed something. I think agenda for Austin (next meeting).
They are trying to sort schedule so that LNC members may be able to attend some LSLA events
We moved to suspend the rules to consider appointing alternates to the Credentials Committee.
The motion was withdrawn after discussion and deferred to a mail ballot.
Dixon….staff may be needed for some of both
Redpath….allow Sat. AM for LSLA
Sounds like it was agreed to
LSLA is the weekend of Friday 2/26 to Sunday 2/28. LNC will meet the afternoon of Saturday 2/27 and the morning of Sunday 2/28.
Redpath announces he will not seek reelection as chair although he may seek reelection to committee.
Sounded like Colley said he is not running for At Large although I think he was joking.
Andy tries to bring up Kohlhaas, Haugh, ruled out of order, meeting adjourned.
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