The Antelope Valley Tea Party – Or – A Republican Circle Jerk
I hope that in other parts of the country tea parties are more representative of a true anti-tax or anti-government attitude than they are here. In spite of the best efforts of the Campaign for Liberty and the Libertarian Party to focus the Antelope Valley Tea Party in Lancaster, California, this one was little more than a pep rally for mainstream Republican Party members.
Perhaps I shouldn’t have expected much given that prominent local politicians were involved. In attendance were two State Assemblymen and one State Senator, all Republican, as well as the chairman of the local Republican Party. While the mayor of Lancaster was supposed to have been there but had to bow out at the last minute, conspicuous by his absence in any of the event literature was the mayor of Palmdale, a relatively better sort of Republican. (Not better enough to be Libertarian, but better than the average Republican … kind of like saying “taller than Deep Roy” but I mean it in a nice way.) Then again, he did have the gall to oppose a ruling family Republican in a primary race not long ago.
The event planners ensured that there would be no official question and answer session. I should have known that the politicians would not have shown up had they been faced with the risk of an unprepared question while the press was there to cover it.
I handed out fliers with twelve very pointed questions about the Republican Party’s support for the recent California tax increases and the ballot proposition that would extend those increases from two years to four years. I was told that if I was handing out fliers I could not do it in the official tea party area but had to do it out in the parking lot.
It was good to see that people were heckling Assemblyman Steve Knight. He voted to put the tax extension proposition on the ballot. The next speaker was Assemblyman Cameron Smyth who, seeing the way Knight was fiercely heckled, instead talked entirely about our valiant troops overseas defending our freedom. Trying to get him to explain why he voted to put the tax extension proposition on the ballot by my own heckling led to someone nearby hushing me for not showing support for the troops.
Most of the rally afterwards centered on how illegal immigrants were to blame for all of our financial problems, or how we should concentrate all our attention on the Democrats in Washington. There was almost no attention paid to the Republicans and Democrats in Sacramento. It would seem natural for local politicians to discuss local issues, but that would reflect too poorly on their own behavior.
The last thing on anyone’s mind (except for the LPers and the C4Lers) was how the Republican Party contributed to this mess. This pep rally was for the Republicans to convince themselves that they are not to blame for the mess they made. Sorry, I didn’t fall for it. I hope other Tea Parties are better, but the Antelope Valley is were ideas go to die.
I did corner Assemblyman Knight after the rally. Apparently he knows my name because as soon as I introduced myself he talked to everyone but me. But I can be quite patient and after every single last distraction had finished talking to him he was willing to angrily defend his voting to put the tax hike on the ballot. Apparently the bill had some good stuff and some bad stuff, and for the sake of the good stuff he voted for the bill with the bad stuff in it. Also he angrliy said he does indeed endorse the Republicans who voted to raise taxes because otherwise the Democrats would get 2/3 in the legislature and taxes would be raised.



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Thank you!
To members of The California Revolution
Gene Trosper
Today at 9:56pm
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Thanks to everyone who showed up for today’s rally in Riverside! I know that the weather looked like it was going to rain and that it prevented some from showing up, but we had a great rally regardless!
It sounds like Riverside may be doing better than Antelope Valley. Or that Gene is more optimistic than I am.
Gene organized it so I’m guessing he knows what he’s talking about.
I was at the Antelope Valley Tea Party too, I had a much different veiw than you did, I saw people there that were mad as heck because the officials won’t listen to the people, I also saw politicians who actually cared enough about what is happening in this country to show up and talk with the local people..The crowd was not huge but there were around a thousand in attendance and I would say since it was the day before Easter when many go out of town, that wasn’t bad.
I thought the event was great, I encourage all to get involved, we all need to put an end to the out of control spending in this Country and take back our government.
There will always be critics like Paulie Cannolli ..people like this would rather be part of the problem, than the solution.
Uh, Beverly, please pay attention.
I was over a thousand miles away.
Ayn R. Key wrote this, I didn’t…it’s a group blog.
I was at the Lancaster event were they had a red, white and blue flag. with gold fringe attached to it. From the onset of the sham-wow event I knew just how it was going to go down. It was not for the people by the people. I assure you of that. The first problem that I observed was when the government people told people that they could not present there issues. It was a staged event. By that I mean the government tryed to make everyone believe that this Tea Party was for the people by the people. That could not be farther from the truth. In a real tea party the people are the main players and not the government. It is a time for all government officials to shut there mouths and listen to the people for a change. yes I said CHANGE. This is the reason why people are mad. it is because our officials have not listened. And by the way the Tea Party of the Antelope Valley has cowered down to there government officials on 04/11/2009 Irest my case. The people never got a chance to speek, that is the fact. Now let me tell you one more fact “WHEN I SAY I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG” IT NEVER SAID FLAGS. IT NEVER SAID DOUBLE STANDARDS WERE ALLOWED. ALSO WHEN I SAY THE NATIONAL ANTHEM IT SAID “OUR FLAG WAS STILL THERE.” IT NEVER SAID OUR FLAGS WERE STILL THERE. THE FLAGS WERE BOTH WITH GOLD FRINGE AND THAT IS THE WRONG WAY TO DISPLAY THE FLAG AND THEYE KNOW IT. ALL NATIONS HAVE JUST ONE FLAG AND MY NATIONAL FLAG DOS’NT HAVE GOLD FRINGE PEOPLE.
Is there a full moon out?
pauliecannoli…………………..You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! I was there too! and I also confronted some of the Ca Republican Party Supporters there. I was very offended by the so called Tea Party put on by George Runner. It was nothing more than a political stunt to fool the IDIOT voters who can’t see what the CA Republicans are doing. They are pretending to be against taxes in public, then they are working behind the scenes with the ASS-HOLE Governor and the Liberal anti-American Socialist Democrats to raise our taxes……..prop 1A….DUHH.
What is frustrating to me is the fact that all these idiot Republican Voters fall for this crap and cheer these Traitors. I have been a life-long Conservative Republican, and I feel that the Republican Party has completely sold us out. I will NEVER again vote or trust in any Republican Politician again in my life. I am switching to Independent or Constitution Party. There is NOT ONE REPUBLICAN WORTHY OF MY VOTE! They all should be removed from office in any way possible!
pauliecannoli…………………..You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!
About what? I didn’t write this.
Just in case you missed it in the article itself, I pointed it out again in the comments here, but I guess you didn’t read those either?
They like you Paul.
LOL. Yeah, that’s it…
Deport, perhaps you are unaware that this State is run by the asshole liberals, so don’t tell me the republicans are to blame for the mess in this state and the mess in the Country, it is all the pandering to the left that got us where we are, when our republican officials fight from the right the majority liberals say they do not work bipartisan, we can’t have it both ways so we as Conservatives had better make up our minds as to what we want..I personally would rather they stay right and fight then move center and allow the liberals to take the reigns, everytime they move to the center we lose another battle, we need strong leadership, I think George Runner is good, he has a hard fight but he listens to the people. Being a politician is probably not as easy as some would like us to believe, your damned if you do and your damned when you don’t. But at least he is available to the people and listens.
Once we get the illegals out of this sate and cut ALL programs designed to keep the underpriviledged down, the sooner we move to prosperity, but as long as the pandering continues we pay big time.
so don’t tell me the republicans are to blame for the mess in this state and the mess in the Country
The Democrats and Republicans are both equally to blame. In fact they are the same thing under two different names, two sides of the same coin.
we as Conservatives
We are libertarians, not conservatives. Check out the blogroll or past articles.
I personally would rather they stay right
Not me.
See
http://all-left.net/
and
http://www.wconger.blogspot.com/2005/08/karl-hess-left-right-spectrum.html
“My own notion of politics is that it follows a straight line rather than a circle. The straight line stretches from the far right where (historically) we find monarchy, absolute dictatorships, and other forms of absolutely authoritarian rule. On the far right, law and order means the law of the ruler and the order that serves the interest of that ruler, usually the orderliness of drone workers, submissive students, elders either totally cowed into loyalty or totally indoctrinated and trained into that loyalty. Both Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler operated right-wing regimes, politically, despite the trappings of socialism with which both adorned their regimes. Huey Long, when governor-boss of Louisiana, was moving toward a truly right-wing regime, also adorned with many trappings of socialism (particularly public works and welfare) but held together not by social benefits but by a strong police force and a steady flow of money to subsidize and befriend businessmen.
An American President could be said to move toward the right to the extent that he tended to make absolutely unilateral political decisions, with no reference to Congress, for instance, or to the people generally, and when the legitimacy of the regime was supported or made real more by sheer force, say of police power, than by voluntary allegiance from the people generally. Such a regime, also, would be likely to suppress or to swallow up potentially competing centers of power such as trade unions. Major financial interests, however, if Adolf Hitler’s relations with industry, for example, can be considered instructive, would be bought off, rather than fought off, with fat contracts and a continuing opportunity to enrich their owners. Joseph Stalin, of course, had no problem with anything such as independent trade unions or business, since both had been killed off earlier.
“The overall characteristic of a right-wing regime, no matter the details of difference between this one and that one, is that it reflects the concentration of power in the fewest practical hands.
“Power, concentrated in few hands, is the dominant historic characteristic of what most people, in most times, have considered the political and economic right wing.
“The far left, as far as you can get away from the right, would logically represent the opposite tendency and, in fact, has done just that throughout history. The left has been the side of politics and economics that opposes the concentration of power and wealth and, instead, advocates and works toward the distribution of power into the maximum number of hands.
“Just as the scale along this line would show gradations of the right, so would it show gradations of the left.
“Before getting to a far-right monarchy or dictatorship, there are many intermediate right-wing positions. Some are called conservative.
“Somewhere along the line, for instance, a certain concentration of power, particularly economic power, would be acceptable in the name of tradition. The children of the rich, characteristically, are accorded very special places in the regimes of the right, or of conservatives. Also, there is a great deference to stability and a preference for it rather than change — all other things being equal. Caution might be the watchword toward the center of this right-wing scale, simply a go-slow attitude. That is, admittedly, a long way from the far right and dictatorship, but it is a way that can and should be measured on a straight line. The natural preference for law and order that seems such a worthwhile and innocent conservative preference is from a political tradition that came to us from kings and emperors, not from ancient democracy.
“This hardly means that every conservative, if pressed, will go farther and farther right until embracing absolute dictatorship or monarchy. Far from it. It does mean to suggest only that the ghosts of royal power whisper in the conservative tradition.
“The left shows similar gradations. The farthest left you can go, historically at any rate, is anarchism — the total opposition to any institutionalized power, a state of completely voluntary social organization in which people would establish their ways of life in small, consenting groups, and cooperate with others as they see fit.
“The attitude on that farthest left toward law and order was summed up by an early French anarchist, Proudhon, who said that ‘order is the daughter of and not the mother of liberty.’ Let people be absolutely free, says this farthest of the far, far left (the left that Communism regularly denounces as too left; Lenin called it ‘infantile left’). If they are free they will be decent, but they never can be decent until they are free. Concentrated power, bureaucracy, et cetera, will doom that decency. A bit further along the left line there might be some agreement or at least sympathy with this left libertarianism but, it would be said, there are practical and immediate reasons for putting off that sort of liberty. People just aren’t quite ready for it. Roughly, that’s the position of the Communist Party today…
“At any rate, at some point on the spectrum there is the great modern American liberal position. Through a series of unfortunate but certainly understandable distortions of political terminology, the liberal position has come to be known as a left-wing position. Actually, it lies right alongside the conservative tradition, down toward the middle of the line, but decidedly, I think, to the right of its center. Liberals believe in concentrated power — in the hands of liberals, the supposedly educated and genteel elite. They believe in concentrating that power as heavily and effectively as possible. They believe in great size of enterprise, whether corporate or political, and have a great and profound disdain for the homely and the local. They think nationally but they also think globally and now even intergalactically. Actually, because they believe in far more authoritarian rule than a lot of conservatives, it probably would be best to say that liberals lie next to but actually to the right of many conservatives.”
Back to Beverly:
Once we get the illegals out of this state…
No human being is illegal.
How do we get the State to be more widely acknowledged as illegal – that’s the real challenge.
but as long as the pandering continues we pay big time
Well, at least we agree about something!
Beverly, perhaps you missed the last paragraph of my essay here.
Assemblyman Knight said that if he didn’t support Assemblyman Adams then Assemblyman Adams would be replaced by someone who would raise taxes. But Assemblyman Adams voted to raise taxes.
That means Assemblyman Knight isn’t the valliant anti-tax crusader you make him out to be. He’s guilty of aiding and abetting a tax increase. Instead of “robbing the bank” he “drove the getaway car.” And here you come saying “at least he didn’t rob the bank.”
Don’t you realize what you are doing? They do it deliberately so that you will mistakenly think they are anti-tax, hoping that useful fools will be convinced by the show. But Knight refuses to say Adams is unworthy. Adams is, by any libertarian (and allegedly conservative) standard unworthy. Knight refuses to say Adams is unworthy.
Every time the Republicans aid and abet a tax increase while saying “but I’m not the one doing it” I find it less convincing than the last time, and I haven’t found it convincing for years. Why do you still find it convincing? Why do you still think that the driver of the getaway car is not guilty of anything?
At least with an honest bank robbery people agree that the driver is guilty of a crime. But when it comes to policial theater we have an audience that wants to be fooled. Beverly, OPEN YOUR EYES! Stop believing the show simply because the actors are on “your team” instead of “the other team” and find out that the teams are the SAME team.
It went the same way in Tuscaloosa.
Everyone will meat again on ever first saterday of every mounth. SAME TIME, SAME PLACE ON LANCASTER BLVD. SAME TIME 7:00pm untill we start getting the reconition that we deserve. lOOKING FORWORD TO MEATING YOU AND ALL THOSE FRENDLY FACES DOWN AT RUNNERS OFFICE AGAIN. MAY GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.
Meating friendly faces? I think you got the wrong post.
You must have meant this one:
http://pauliecannoli.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/free-max-hardcore/
I also went to this “Tea Party” that featured the Usual Suspects ONLY as speakers.
It was planned and put on by John E. Skjefte, 661-902-3792. Politicalvoodoodolls@roadrunner.com
I had advised him previously that Runner, et al would see a microphone and run to it and use this event as one of their own press conferences.
Then when I dared to criticize THE EVENT for the above stated reasons and that the sound system stunk by using my email newsletter, Skjefte emailed THREATS to me a senior citizen.
Of course I reported them and forwarded the threats to Sheriff Baca and advised Skjefte that IF he continued to threaten me or started stalking me I would get a Restraining Order against him.
If you bother to go to my yahoo free listing you’ll see what I believe are his “Comments” about me professionally as a “Clown” and that I haven’t worked as a PI in years and only write emails to the board of supervisors (Which I do).
The Republican Assembly in Lancaster/Palmdale will LOSE the next election here. Knight barely won against a really dumb (In my opinion) liberal Democrat lady.
The AVRA is headed up by LOSER Lew Stults who is also Howard “Buck” McKeons man in the AV.
Lew Stults warned a local landscaping business “Friend” when I reported them for hiring illegal aliens to ICE.
Lew Stults REPORTEDLY had the FBI follow me and I think bug my phone and go through my mail, for my insistance that The Lancaster Toxic Dump be cleaned up.
Lew Stults STILL has not Bore Tested this dump as the MILLIONS of gallons of toxic waste liquids including, but NOT limited to, Heavy metals, acids and fuel slowly leech towards Lancaster’s water table below.
The AVRA here is full of cronyism and corruption and deserves to go.
Put the crazed liberal-Democrats in next time because THEY are what the loser’s here deserve.
Ace Pearblossom!
It’s hard to imagine someone with a lower IQ than an AV Teabagger, but Ace might be it. :-]
Ahhnuld gutted the CA govt. (and took out more loans than Davis did) Tax revenues are needed (like, revising prop 13). For that matter, Fed tax rates are still low, historically speaking (around Clinton levels). During Reagan’s first term they were around 50% on upper brackets. A few sane GOPers understand that. The T-B gang doesn’t.
Now, remember, folks– this upcoming AV election, be sure to vote for old Mr NOTA (None Of The Above) –tho’ Miss Cavala has a few good ideas. No to the Stooges (including the Rodeo, who is no more Demo than the Parris gang)
Yes…
Everyone can see from you moronic post that you are much smarter than I am.
You HoratioX are also much braver. So much so that you fail to put your real name here.
Dumb-ass..!
Hey Ace why not like try to convince all the libertarians hereabouts of the truths of Joseph Smith, and his visions of ….the Angel Moroni ??
Holy Seer Stones, batman.
Really Acester, we need only re-post some of yr brainfarts from the AV Press (and the rest of the usual intheav stooges–) to reveal your incompetence.
re AV Election—
RexCo and his baptist-zombies win again. Though we are not fans of the ACLU hopefully they (or someone who understands the First Amendment) will be taking RexCo’s ridiculous Measure to court
(–even Aynnie Rand opposed the biblethumping hordes).
What does the Tea Party do in the AV?
They meet at McDonalds every other week and then stand on the corner waving flags.
Like this will have an effect at all?
How impotent and weak…
Hay Ace Carter
1. There are Oath Takers
2. There are Oath Keepers
3. There are people like you that attack people for just holding a flag and showing there oath to the flag instead of flags.
If you have a problem with your fellow americans for exposing that doubble standard flag dicotamy then state your views or shut the crud up.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE ((( FLAG ))) OF THE United States Of America AND TO THE Republic FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
Anyone can take the oath of the flag but not every one keeps the oath and some atact those that hold the flag.
You need to stop attacking those people that hold the flag and that oath. Sir.
Make your appology known sir.
Dont be so shrude sir.
It dose not show your better side.
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