The newest idea in rounding up “deadbeat dads” is to display their photos and identifying information on pizza boxes. Each child support wanted poster in Butler County, Ohio depicts multiple men along with their last known address, age and date of birth, occupation, number of children, and amount owed.
I’m sorry, but as much as I think everybody should pony up to support their children, I think this plan could possibly do a great deal of emotional damage to the children whose fathers are pictured in such a public manner.
There is also the possibility that there is a legitimate reason why the person is behind on their support payments, as well as the rather chilling possibility that someone could be publicly outed as a “deadbeat” when they aren’t behind on their child support at all, thanks to the government system which very regularly has no idea who has paid or how much someone is behind.
No matter how I view it, it’s a bad idea. There’s too much margin for error, and an error in something of this nature could ruin someone’s life.
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Also, I find it hard to believe there aren’t deadbeat moms around. But of course, that’s politically incorrect.
I agree that this would cause much more harm than good. And Nigel makes a good point – I know of several women who left the man to raise the child while they run around and go through a second childhood. Whoever thinks this idea is brilliant is a moron.
A- The family courts remain biased towards the mother as the parent. There ARE mothers that leave the families, but in cases of dispute — the majority of cases — the majority of those are ‘resolved’ towards the mother regardless of how beneficial this is to the children. Often it is horridly BAD; schizophrenic mothers awarded custody and alimony for example.
B- The child support system is funded by the increasing of payments from the fathers. In California, for example, roughly 75% of the payments go to the bureaucracy rather than to the mother — a man whose wife was awarded $200/month in child support had $800/monthly payments. This is yet another example where the system itself is designed to profit itself rather than the people it purportedly supports.
The child support enforcement agencies do know exactly how much support is owed. Payments are sent directly to these state agencies and then the funds are sent the custodial parent. Is there “legitimate” reasons why a parent would not pay child support? I don’t think there are many, other than illness or injury.
My ex-husband refused to pay child support for our four children during our divorce. He spent one month in a county jail. He now has his wages garnished. I think putting deadbeat parents on pizza boxes is a great idea.
Non-payment of child support is a crime.
There are currently 17 million children owed close to 107 billion dollars in child support. Think this is not your problem? Think again. Many of these families are forced to go on welfare, so you are supporting the deadbeat’s
children.
On April 12th I am donating 100% of the profits from my book “Seven Secrets to a Successful Divorce” to The Child Support Disaster Relief Fund, (A.C.E.S) when you buy the book at amazon.com.
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I would do anything for my children and would never let them go without what they need to be healthy, happy children. How can a parent justify not paying support for the children they brought into the world? If you are behind in support, work two jobs and stop complaining! And yes, there are deadbeat moms too. They deserve to be put on the pizza boxes as well.
I see quite a bit of similarity in this to the sex offenders databases. One major problem, as the author suggests, is that everyone, from the most egregious violators to those whose circumstances make their violations more reasonable, are all lumped into the same category and branded as “deadbeat dad” (or “sex offender” in my analogy).
There’s no doubt that there will be some unwarranted abuse coming out of this.
The child support system makes no conciliations to whether or not it would destitute those whom it extorts. Back-payments collect interest, said interest never to be received by the family. The system artificially inflates the payments. The alimony system is similar but nowhere near so pervasively corrupt.
Look at the simple fact that this Christina Rowe person is nothing more than a shill for the child support system; her own book essentially tells women how to wring every single cent they can out of their husbands.
This is acceptable? This is *MORAL*? In *WHAT* world?
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… That is pure, vitriolic, evil; from the perspective of feminism and from the “male perspective” as well. It encourages and rewards women for leeching off of men. I cannot use words to describe the depth of my loathing for this kind of thinking.
In short — it is abusive to men. It is abusive and denigrating to women. It outright child abuse. People who cultivate this sort of thinking need to be shunned, and frankly ought to be taken to a dark alley and have the snot beaten out of them.
I looked at Christina’s website a little closer, and all I could do is chuckle at her sales pitch and “bonuses”.
The website references “bonuses” which are available if they purchase it from her “today only!”. However, the interior of the book has a footnote referencing a very similar offer, and the website has been up since May 31, 2006.
According to her “bonuses”, people actually pay Christina $125 for a 20-minute phone call and $50 per email, if you can believe that. I know I don’t.
It’s also dishonest to say on a website that the book is not yet publicly available, thus making it sound like people are getting something they can’t get elsewhere. It’s been on amazon.com since at least December 2006, based on comments; it was self-published in October 2006. Folks can get it on Amazon for $19.95, while Christina charges “the unbelievably low price of $47!”
Yep, I’d agree that’s pretty damn unbelievable. LOL
Firstly, even if the person on the pizza box really is a dead-beat dad, is it right to post the amount of money that he owes? Isn’t it bad enough that his picture is on a pizza box? Not that there is really an excuse for not paying child support, but there are exceptions to every rule and arguement, so there could be a person out there who has a legitimate reason for not paying. This could definitely damage their reputation. I wonder if they came up with criteria as to which dead-beat dads to put on the boxes, i.e. must they have been missing or in default for a certain period of time before they are publicly disgraced?
Well, that looked like an afterthought.
I have a lot to say about this horrendous book/site of yours, but I just realized that it’d be better done in a new thread.
I think this is true that it is kind of a double edged sword that yes it is informative to put a deadbeat dad’s pic on the box but it may also harm and embarress the kid’s whose father is on the box -that would be so mortifying!
I’m not saying I’m in favor of this Pizza Box plan, but how is it any different than posting Wanted posters in the Post Office?
Advice to men: Don’t impregnate women to whom you are not in a committed relationship. If you engage in behaviors that could lead to impregnation, then you must accept the risks.
I had a deadbeat dad…anything they can do help find them is a good thing. It’s not easy to grow up with nothing and no money. I support the pizza boxes, and think deadbeat moms should be on them too. If you have children, you have a responsibility for taking care of them…at least seeing to their basic needs.
For me the worst thing of it wll, as it was posted in the article, is that no one seems to be thinking about the children whose father’s will be dislplayed in pizza boxes. It a nice idea as far as getting publicity, but I really can’t believe this was a decision that people spend a lot of time thinking about.
Report dead beat parents free! New support forum allows users and visitors to report non-paying parent information in child support cases. This resource will assist users to circulate and collect information about a dead beat parent’s location and financial information which will be used to aid in the collection of past due child support.
VISIT http://www.idbd.info IDBD- Internation Dead Beat Database for more information!
idbd: What if any actions have you taken to ensure that people listed on your website are, in fact, deadbeat parents? I see a huge potential for abuse by those who just want to ruin someone’s reputation.